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Thanks for sharing. Not really surprised by any of those results, with all the bullets behaving pretty well, considering their designs. The 130 TTSX is a mean little bugger.... Interesting to see that the 168NBT was such a good penetrator. I caught one of those on a hard-angle deer shot and it looked about like your bullet. It's a good choice in the .308win. 168NBT Recovery
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I'm actually surprised the Interlokt's performed as poorly as they did. I expected them to do at least as good as the BT and ELDX.
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The 150gr .30cal is a bit stubby, compared to the NBT and ELD-X, but I'd have guessed it to dig as deep and hold together a little better, given the sub-2700fps MV.
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I would love to see a 150 TSX from the .308 tested for penetration and expansion! That is your weekend assignment! memtb
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The 150gr .30cal is a bit stubby, compared to the NBT and ELD-X, but I'd have guessed it to dig as deep and hold together a little better, given the sub-2700fps MV. I also don't think the jacket of the 150 Hornady is as thick as that of the 168 BT either.
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I’ll send you couple 30 cal 168 ttsx to try out next time to see how it does compare to the 130.
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I've run a couple similar tests in the past, but didn't bother with Barnes since I figured I knew they would expand nicely, penetrate deeply and not lose any weight. I threw the 130 TTSX in the mix this time because it is so different in terms of velocity and weight from what I normally run in .308. I had also noticed when picking a few up from the dirt at my range that the hollow point seemed larger than other TSX or TTSXs that I've used. I was curious to compare the penetration and to see how big the expanded diameter would be.
I do load some other Barnes including 165 TTSXs in my 300 WSM at a little over 3100 fps. I also have some old leftover 30 cal 150gr MRX bullets that I could load up. I guess I could do a little Barnes vs Barnes test next time.
Just a couple other notes: I've run the 168 Ballistic Tip into the paper at over 3000 fps and it looked essentially the same as this test. Also, just about every un-bonded cup and core bullet I've tested this way has spit the core, but it is usually right by the jacket if I do find it. As long as the bullet doesn't completely flatten, fragment or fail to penetrate I consider it fairly stout - it's a pretty tough test of a bullet.
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I always enjoy these tests and the good info. Thanks for your time and effort!
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Thanks for this! I'd love to see the .308 Winchester, 130 gr. TTSX (ideally the 168 gr.) at 400 yards. My fear is they won't expand at all.
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Mirrors my results through milk jugs. Which speaks well of their respective consistency.
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Thanks for this! I'd love to see the .308 Winchester, 130 gr. TTSX (ideally the 168 gr.) at 400 yards. My fear is they won't expand at all. Might take a few more yards than that to see no expansion. Impact at 400yd would be 2100fps with the 130gr load. I’ve seen hits on deer/hogs with the 7mm 120gr ttsx at impacts of 2250-2300fps and the expanded well enough for killing, even on broadside shots. Might not have been tremendous expansion, but was enough for good damage and blood trails.
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Good read. A comparison at longer range would be useful. I've reviewed many bullet tests and always find them interesting. Thanks for sharing the results and for your time and effort.
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Great work, and thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for the test data, working with newspaper is tough.
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Thanks for the info, they all should kill deer and pigs well. I’m gonna try the 130 TTSX in a 300 Savage soon, try it on some 🐷 piggies.
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This is good information.
Thank you for posting it.
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I have really been liking those 168gr Ballistic Tips.
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Neat post. I appreciate your time!
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